Weight Loss & Hypnosis with Didi Vergados on Wow Factor Media


Weight Loss and Hypnosis with Didi Vergados on Wow Factor  Media: Transcript of Podcast


Joanne: Welcome to Wow Factor Media with Joann and Heather. Wizards of wellness bringing you topics and people that are one step ahead. Joann and Heather bring you years of experience from their own long time private practice, empowering their clients with tools and techniques to create their best lives.

Joanne: And joining us now shortly we’ll just give a brief introduction here, is Didi Vergados and hopefully Didi I’ve said your name properly and you can correct me when we bring you live on the air. Didi is a board-certified hypnotist, she is a master practitioner of NLP neuro linguistic programming. She’s a personal development coach and corporate trainer in the field of emotional health and management. We’re so excited to have Didi speaking at the conference this year and teaching a workshop, I believe and will get Didi on shortly and she can explain that a little bit more to us. So, Didi if we’ve got you here, we’re going to see if we can get you on the phone. We can hear you. So, good morning Didi.

Didi: Hello

Heather: Good morning, how are you?

Joanne: And we pronounce your last name correctly?

Didi: Yes, you did

Heather: Awwh Yeah

Joanne: Oh, thank you

Joanne: And where are you from Didi? Tell us where you’re from?

Didi: I’m from Toronto. Toronto Canada.
Joanne: You’re from Toronto? OK fantastic. And how long have you been doing Hypnosis?

Didi: I’ve actually been certified for fifteen years or so and I practiced on and off but I’ve been doing it as a full time career for the past five, maybe even six years; not sure I’ve lost count.

Heather: And that’s the same as me. I got my certification and I did use it on and off but E.F.T. Emotional Freedom Technique was my main modality with hypnosis secondary. And some more along the way, hypnosis kind of took over and it switch roles with E.F.T. so I still use both but hypnosis became front and center, just like you.

Didi: Yes it is. you know what, I practiced many different kinds of therapies. I am a seeker of the mind, so I find myself always interested in learning anything new and effective. So, I virtually check out everything that comes along, but yes I gravitated more towards hypnosis because it’s just the fastest and most powerful when it comes to affecting change, because you’re making it at that unconscious level. With something like weight loss, we can all agree that it’s not our bodies driving us to eat to the point where our stomachs are distended and uncomfortable and we feel sick. It’s a problem coming from, our thought patterns, from our unconscious, from our minds. There’s some need we’re trying to get met through eating, so that’s where we have to address; it in the mind.

Joanne: Right. And Didi you’re going to be doing a, three-and-a-half-hour presentation on weight. You haven’t had a peek at the schedule yet, the speakers are getting that peek in just a day or two but you’ll be doing our presentation on weight loss, so that not only can people attending learn something for themselves but also if they’re hypnotists, have take away for their clients.

Didi: Right, and I am looking so forward to it because I can’t tell you, it was one day when I was sitting at my office, at my desk, I think I was, I don’t know if I was done for the day or waiting for somebody but it just occurred to me it’s like my God I listen day in and day out to everybody that comes on my couch for their initial consultation just talking and they’re all saying the same thing about weight loss. They’ve had that same pattern of thinking that we get stuck in, which I experience myself too because for the first thirty years of my life, I was on this, I call it the weight loss wheel. It’s kind of like you’re this hamster and you’re just, you’re just on the wheel, where you go on a diet and then go off. You are obsessed with food all the time. you’re not happy if you’re eating it, you’re not happy if you’re not eating it; it’s like there’s no peace around. You know what, I really have to do something for people, I really do because it’s a tormented way to live and when you begin addressing all of those issues, those unconscious triggers, I call them and you start moving them and shifting them and giving people alternative strategies and opening up their choices for what they can do rather than eating, it’s pretty simple after that.

Joanne: Yeah. What do you find are some of the main triggers? Like, you said that hamster wheel, what are some of the main things that keep coming across that people stay on the hamster wheel for?

Didi: OK, well there’s a couple things I’m going to begin with emotional eating. So, like I said there’s some need we’re trying to get met for ourselves, whether it’s comfort or just shut everything down at the end of the day or there’s uncomfortable feelings coming up that we don’t have the resources to deal with. So, we just basically eat to shut it down and we know this is true, because brain scans will actually show, that when we eat highly refined carbs, sugar and high fatty foods, those go straight to the pleasure centers of the brain much like cocaine or heroin. So, you’re actually pleasuring yourself through eating [cross talk 5:45]
Joanne: Is that right?
Didi: Yeah there’s actually scientific evidence that now shows that. So, we’re beginning to look, a lot of addiction specialists are beginning to look at food addiction because it does. And then the brain of course is going to set up that craving, feel bad, Oh God I’ve gotta do something to pleasure myself. Now it’s not as quick as cocaine or heroin but it’s still does activate the same centers of the brain.
Joanne: Right, because it’s helping to release endorphins, right?

Didi: Right, well all those pleasurable chemicals. So, that’s why most people, you’ll find that night time eating it’s huge, it’s like at the end of a long day, we come home, we’re just overwhelmed or stressed, we just need a way to shut it all down and for most people they begin with good intentions, I’m just going to have dinner but then you know they end up snacking and continuing night time bingeing, basically. And they continue to eat all night long and it is because it puts you into that, like lovely little carb coma, I call it. Where you’re just not think that if anything. You’re just there on that couch and you are like in this, nice little relaxed pleasurable state. So that’s the one that we have to tackle; we have to tackle that one most often. now having said that, people go into weight loss with the completely wrong state of mind to begin with because we’ve been so brainwashed that we need to go on diets. So, if you think about a diet, it’s a slow form of torture because if you asked most people when are you going to start your diet? First thing that they’re going to say is, Monday, oh, OK so that [cross talk 07:25] ………because I want to enjoy my weekend so what does that tell you about going on a diet? Already you’re approaching it with trepidation and misery and the idea that you’re going to suffer. And if you have more than fifty pounds to lose, you’re signing up for that for like eight months if you do it slowly and consistently. So, nobody wants to sign up for that for 8 months. So the idea of going on a diet, represents to people, complete and total utter suffering. So that’s not the right state of mind to go into with something that you have to stick with and continue with for a long time. And the reason that state of mind creates a sense of deprivation is because what it has a focus on is everything we can’t have. So, I’ll give you an example, for example- and anybody who’s been on a diet will know this to happen-so you go into the supermarket and you’re on a diet. So, all of a sudden you go by the freezer section, ice cream! Ok, you haven’t had ice cream for six months because we’ve had minus 28-degree weather. So, you haven’t even thought about it but now that you’re on a diet you go Mmmh ice cream, Oh well I can’t have that. Oh but I want it, because now you’re attention is focused on it, so the choices become if I have it, it means I fail, if I don’t have it, it means I’m depriving myself and I’m suffering. So, those are two lose-lose situations, so you can’t win from a motivational standpoint when it comes to going on a diet. So what we try and do, is have people focus on all the reasons that they want to become their ideal weight but it’s not just the superficial reasons; the reasons but at the deeper core level of their being. So, when we really take it down, these are using N.L.P. language patterns, for those of us who practice NLP we’re getting to their deepest core motivators, their highest values. So, most people it’ll boil down to, listen I’m really impacting my family, I don’t want to set my children up with this kind of relationship with food, so I mean I have to show them, that I can do this. I’m doing it for them or there’s deeper reasons that we’re doing things that motivate us or maybe that person says I believe I’m capable of much more. In all the other areas of my life I’ve achieved and I’m using my full potential but in this one, I’m just not and it just doesn’t feel good because that’s not who I am. So, we’ve got to address those deeper, core values and we use that to motivate someone because when you really know what’s motivating you at a deeper core level, then your mind is focused on that. You get up every morning and you say I’ve got to say for my kids, no-no I’m not going to have that muffin at lunch because it’s important that I show them that I can do this. So, we approach it from that point of view and then we actually List down, I have people create a meal plan, if they don’t do with a nutritionist, about all the things that they can have. So, it’s ready, it’s available, like they’re just aware of all the thing they can have, then focused on that; focus on, yeah, I’m going to have that delicious quinoa salad; focus on all the things you can have, that are going to bring you more and more towards your goal.

Joanne: One of the things that I find the society has this built in sabotager. It just seems like every meeting you go to, anything at night they have to have refreshments. I do that with the quotes with the fingers refreshments. And you’ve only just had dinner, but you go to this meeting and they have to have donuts out with coffee or other kind of wines and cheeses or something like that. It just seems like we’ve become a nation that can’t go without eating for just more than a few hours.

Didi: Right, and again that’s built into our society just like many cultures, I mean it’s proper protocol to offer people sweets when they come over. So, none of that matters when you’re on track, I actually help people to create an aversion to that type of food which makes it very easy to reject it. So, aversion, I’ve begun to incorporate that a lot, because I find that that works for me. It’s just like people will say, how can you not have that donut? And I’m thinking, how can you have it? It’s the most vile and nutritionally depleted kind of food that probably causes more harm in your body than any amount of nutrition it could add, see that’s my attitude, It’s very easy for me to reject that kind of food. So, we have to really motivate people in a way where it’s very unappealing to eat that food because it will bring them everything a) that they don’t want and b) if your goal is to eat to satisfy a hunger, in a way that will satisfy your nutritional needs for the next four hours, the don’t is not going to cut it. So we go in with that kind of mindset OK what can I eat that is healthy that will bring my energy up and last me the next four hours well everybody knows if you just snack on a donut you’re going to be you’re going to crash in half an hour you’re going to be hungrier than ever so best doesn’t fit that criteria so we need to sort of a right period there’s there’s so many different levels that we work on with weight loss I mean I’ve just mentioned I think two.

Joanne: So many levels, one of the challenges I find with my clients is, the client that thinks fruit bottom yogurt is really really healthy and it really really isn’t. Are they think that, what’s another example Heather of a food that

Heather: well brown bread is still OK but because it’s not white you know it’s just that it’s the old thinking as if just because it has fruit in it or just because it’s not what they said you know don’t eat white bread you know the the you’re running into that constant battle with with consumerism with just what the marketplace out there is trying to get across to us is that you know this who does all OK and I think Joann’s also going into that question even a bit deeper that you know no matter where you go. The diets you know the gluten free, the Paleo diet, the vegan diet, the vegetarian diet a lot of them are more…you know people are choosing to be vegan or vegetarian for more of a moral reason but you know to go to some of these different extremes How do you deal with those clients that have heard that every food that they put in their body is bad for them.

Didi: Well it’s simply education, now I don’t specialize in nutrition so I have them see a nutritionist or and or have them educate themselves on things like the glycaemic index which are made complete and common sense right, especially when it comes to defined, I mean the low the low fat fruit bottom yogurt is one thing that drives me crazy because in this kind of mode something that is actually you’d be better off you’d actually probably maintain a consistent weight if you ate the high fat yogurt even if it had a little bit of fruit in it because then you know it enters into your bloodstream according to the glycaemic index much more slowly so you’re not as likely to store it as fat so we really need to make sure our clients are educated, cause once they’re educated they’ll understand right. They’ll start to see that you know the low fat thing that’s a myth you do need fat, you need good fat right though so I know…

Speaker: I am a nutritional consultant so I get that that side of educating and explaining because you’re always battling and I don’t I don’t ever take it take it as a battle. I think mainstream media is constantly trying to promote you know a sugar free aspartame filled whatever is better for you and it’s just going back to simplistic roots right anything that’s grown on the planet in its whole form is the best for you. And then as soon as you refine, as soon as you start to break it down the more it’s broken down the the less healthy it is for you and so you know keeping it simple really does explain and take away a lot of that educating that you might have to do right
Speaker: I think the thing on Facebook there is there’s something on Facebook right now that says if your food goes bad it’s good for you. And if it doesn’t go bad then that’s what you need to avoid like like a granola bar people think they’re doing something you know pretty healthy for themselves and they really aren’t it very similar to a chocolate bar.

Didi: Well and people need to start understanding that corporate interests are not out there better good in fact, corporate in interest have developed things like the bliss factor in that special formula that highly refined including fat sugar and salt that creates an addiction and a craving in the brain and that they’re all have to lose weight to get on I want to get you hooked on my food regardless of what it does to you because the bottom line is making money for me so once people begin to understand that these are not trusted sources these are self-serving sources that are out to make themselves money in any way they can period, that’s the bottom
Joanne: they’re absolutely brilliant marketers there’s so brilliant I have to admire how smart they are.

Did: Yeah you have to admire them for that but unfortunately their moral compass is not something to be admired.

Joanne: That’s where we can step in right, so Didi that’s where you step in right and you can educate through the coaching work you do because as far as reading your website you’re more than just hypnosis sessions right, you take somebody sure coaching program do you?

Didi: There’s always that coaching portion of it in the beginning because we need to look at OK, So last week we worked with this particular issue How’s that been impacting you and what do we need to to work on further. So there’s always going to be that you know initial twenty minutes that’s spent finding out OK, where you’re at what do we need to work on because everybody… you know things work for people in different ways in different times, there are some people that you could practically blow on them and they’d change right, and then they’re people that require a little bit more work you know there they’ve got themselves all wrapped up and conflicted in their own conscious mind so they need a little bit more work so there’s always… every, I like to say that every person is as unique as a snowflake you you know no two processes will work on the people the same it’s everybody so different so there does need to be that coaching and that questioning that has people really go Mhmm Hmm. I didn’t know that I was motivated by that or I didn’t know that I had this limiting belief about why bother trying because I’m going to fail anyway you know the fear of failure that’s one in particular with weight loss that comes up you know as we get further into the sessions. Because people will be doing great and you know it’ll it’ll all seem kind of natural them to eat better and then all of a sudden they’ll stop and they’ll say, I don’t know happened and usually it’s that you’re a failure because they failed so many times so there’s a lot of addressing of limiting belief that comes with the weight loss work right. Because think about it, you get on weight loss wheel and you’ve gained and lost and gained and lost your biggest fear is how am I going to keep it off is it possible you know you’ve just developed a limiting belief around that so fear of failure is a huge one to address.

Joanne: And you know we were talking to Linda Hay at the beginning of the program and she has worked with… she’s a former nurse who has worked with Parkinson’s and she and we’ve talked about hypnosis and serious diseases and yet the work that you do with weight clients is every bit as important if not more. Because the weight seems to affect so much of our population these days and it it really does hurt people it hurts them emotionally they think badly of themselves they they think badly they think they’re weak that they can’t you know overcome this so you know work that you’re doing is every bit as important as the work that hypnotists are doing with serious disease.

Didi: Well and the interesting thing is like for example I worked with one weight loss client she was so determined she was like the perfect client I loved her she was a counselor herself so she understood that you know she had to work on these issues. She neglected to tell me that she also had fibromyalgia I don’t know how she missed that it was interesting, I guess she was so focused on the weight loss so I think it was maybe after one, no, it was after two sessions. So the one, the first session, I do know hypnosis I just do purely state of mind and motivational things second one I work on emotional. So I think it was after her first or second she said well I was taking four Tylenol the day and now I’ve only taken two for the whole week and I said What do you mean why are you taking you know why are you taking me all the pain medications, she said well I have fibromyalgia. You didn’t tell me that, and her fibromyalgia practically went away after two sessions. So we know we can influence physical disease when we change our thought patterns. In fact, for every thought there’s an emotional… there’s a biochemical correspondent that’s released so if you’re constantly engaging in either negative thoughts like negative self you know, where you’re putting yourself down or what we call a habitual stress responder always caught in that fear mode, those chemicals are going to degrade your body over time and make you sick so the first thing I like to do is get people in touch with who they want to become. Not just their ideal weight but emotionally, physically, how they communicate, how they want to be in a relationship and it seems just that getting in touch with who they are and defining that, seems to change everything.
Joanne: Sounds like the total package and that’s what people need. Well I have not met Didi personally, she’s a new presenter this year to the Canadian hypnosis conference, but I certainly am looking forward to meeting you in person Didi and hearing your presentation. Didi, If people want to go to your website what it will be on our website after the program and it will be sent to the Canadian hypnosis conference newsletter list but if somebody was waiting with their pen in hand where would they find you.

Didi: Great, it’s W. W .W dot bloom as in helping you bloom as a flower B L O O M hypnosis. Dot com. So bloomhypnosis.com

Joanne: We’lll make sure that there’s a link to that on our power of freedom dot ca website and also they can see your bio and read that on the Kadian hypnosis conference website as well so we’ve got we’ve got a lot of ways for you to get in touch with Didi but the one that we know you can get directly to her to deal more with your weight issues if you just can’t wait till October it’s W .W .W dot Bloom hypnosis dot com. Excellent, well thank you for joining us Didi and we’ll see you in October.

Didi: Thank you I look forward to it.

Joanne: Was great talking with you today, bye bye.

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